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Re: [argouml-dev] ArgoUML and GitHub

Author bobtarling
Full name Bob Tarling
Date 2015-05-26 05:27:41 PDT
Message I have nothing to add that isn't already stated regarding the effort here
but I would +1 a move from SVN to GIT.



On 21 May 2015 at 18:02, Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail dot com> wrote:

> This is a non-trivial task. There are actually over 60 (!) repos with
> hundreds of mailing lists and thousands of contributors/followers plus 15
> years (!) of history.
> http://www.tigris.or​g/servlets/ProjectLi​st?type=Projects​&&field=ProjectN​ame&matchValue=a​rgo&matchType=co​ntains&mode=Filt​ered&pageNum=2​&itemsPerPage=50
> Having said that Tigris has long been marginalized by the other forges and
> since it stopped accepting new projects last year, it's probably just a
> matter of time before it closes.
> There are actually three separate but related decisions to be made:
> 1. Choice of SCM - SVN, git, Mercurial (hg)
> 2. Choice of forge - Github, Bitbucket, Sourceforge, etc
> 3. Choice of ancilliary tools - mailing lists, issue tracker, wiki, etc
> (this usually defaults to whatever is provided by the forge, but doesn't
> have to)
> 4. If the lists of committers is going to be changed, that's another
> separate decision
> I don't think there's any question that git or hg would be better than
> SVN. I mostly use git, but I know hg has its supporters. Github is git
> only, but Bitbucket and Sourceforge give the option of choosing Mercurial.
> I use Github for other projects and, while it's certainly popular, it's
> not without its weaknesses. The issue tracker in particular is pretty weak
> and it'd be worth considering whether to use Jira or some other alternative
> instead.
> Transitioning mailing lists will be eased to some degree by the fact that
> their archived in MarkMail and the new lists could just be added to the
> current archives, but the thousands of subscribers would need to
> resubscribe (or not).
> Choosing not to migrate the issues would mean abandoning a pretty
> significant piece of the project history. That's not a decision to be made
> lightly. I've successfully used my tweaked version of this script to
> migrate issues to Github:
> https://github.com/a​rthur-debert/google-​code-issues-migrator​/pull/18 and
> Tigris has a way to dump all issues in XML e.g.
> http://argoeclipse.t​igris.org/issues/xml​.cgi
> Although Github has a nice easy to use SVN importer (you just give it a
> URL), it can't deal with the ArgoEclipse SVN repo on Tigris, so almost
> certainly won't be able to deal with the main repo which is many times
> larger and more complex, so the migration will need to be done using
> svn2git locally (probably followed by a bunch of handtweaking/pruning to
> get rid of large binaries, etc).
> I'm supportive of migrating (although I'm sure there are some that will be
> nostalgic for Tigris since ArgoUML has been hosted there for 15 years
> <https://tigrisdotorg​.wordpress.com/2010/​05/24/and-the-result​s-are-in/>),
> but you shouldn't underestimate how much work it'll be.
> Tom
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Christian Heinrich <
> christian at gladbachcity dot de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I just raised this question in another e-mail to this list but I think a
>> dedicated thread might be good. I quickly used my mail client to search
>> for this topic but I couldn't find anythin; so bare with me if I'm
>> mistaken.
>> GitHub has clearly become one of the most popular platforms for
>> collaboration on Open Source projects; I dare say, it's todays most
>> popular platform.
>> Many projects have moved there and use the infrastructure plus the vast
>> user base to improve their projects.
>> A quick search for "ArgoUML" yields that there are currently 27
>> repositories on GitHub that deal with Argo. (Link:
>> https://github.com/s​earch?p=1&q=argo​uml&type=Reposit​ories&utf8=%E2%9​C%93
>> )
>> I'm not saying that by moving there thousands of people will currently
>> join ArgoUML, but I think that the barrier will be significantly lower:
>> - One can easily fork the project and commit changes; signing up on
>> tigris.org is not necessary and might hold some people back from
>> contributing a quick patch.
>> - Issue tracker is nicely integrated into the interface; discussion on
>> Pull Requests possible.
>> - Contributing made simple: A simple click will create a pull request
>> and hence notify the ArgoUML team of a new feature someone might have
>> developed.
>> - Other tools support GitHub, such as travis-ci.org, which might be
>> interesting for the CI issue we're currently having.
>> - One can easily use the Git workflow, no SVN needed.
>> - Use GitHub pages to build a decent website.
>> Personally, I'd like to see ArgoUML on GitHub but I haven't been very
>> active for more than 6 years now (I still want to say a quick "Hi
>> Thomas!").
>> I'm curious what you think.
>> Best regards
>> Christian
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[argouml-dev] ArgoUML and GitHub shurakai Christian Heinrich 2015-05-21 06:21:46 PDT
     Re: [argouml-dev] ArgoUML and GitHub penyaskito Christian López Espínola 2015-05-21 07:00:26 PDT
         Re: [argouml-dev] ArgoUML and GitHub shurakai Christian Heinrich 2015-05-21 07:35:35 PDT
     Re: [argouml-dev] ArgoUML and GitHub tfmorris Tom Morris 2015-05-21 10:02:55 PDT
         Re: [argouml-dev] ArgoUML and GitHub bobtarling Bob Tarling 2015-05-26 05:27:41 PDT
             Re: [argouml-dev] ArgoUML and GitHub rastaman Ludovic Maître 2015-05-28 12:49:07 PDT
                 Re: [argouml-dev] ArgoUML and GitHub tfmorris Tom Morris 2015-05-28 14:29:19 PDT
                     Re: [argouml-dev] ArgoUML and GitHub linus Linus Tolke 2015-05-29 01:11:40 PDT
                     Re: [argouml-dev] ArgoUML and GitHub rastaman Ludovic Maître 2015-05-30 09:06:06 PDT
     Re: [argouml-dev] ArgoUML and GitHub linus Linus Tolke 2015-05-30 08:53:38 PDT
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